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I have nothing against someone's religion but if you try to impose it on me, then we have an issue. :iconraegplz: The USA was founded on individual freedom as long as it didn't phsyically hurt anyone. I cannot stand people saying Jesus hates this so ban it. :iconjesusfacepalmplz: There are other religions in the US getting pissed at you for saying that and thinking only of yourself. US is a democracy (technically republic) and we are not a theocracy. Stop trying to make it that way. Oh and this is what Jesus says about theocracy :iconjesusfingerplz:
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tultsi93 Featured By Owner May 20, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
My mom and my oldiest big sister are Christians but they don't try to proselytize me, like I'm not proselytizig them to atheists. They love me and I love them.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner May 20, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
And I think that is how it should be. No one should be forced to another's beliefs. Sure we can disagree but in the end, does it matter?
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Thunder-Shaft Featured By Owner May 16, 2015
I Totally agree, but it must, in turn, e completely legal for someone to disagree on someones other beliefs.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner May 18, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree but leave it civil don't make laws siting religion. While I hate when people call Muslims inhuman, they can say it all they want as long as they accept the consequences of the action. Now harmful assult like blowing up abortion clinics in the name of religion crosses the line.
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Commander-Dominic Featured By Owner May 5, 2015
Agreed.
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2014  Hobbyist
 Agreed, Jesus was against organized religion and authoritarianism as a whole.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
But there's no money to be made in that!
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345rv5 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2014  Hobbyist
Which is why Judas sold Jesus out to the Romans.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well he had to. Jesus needed to die so we could be forgiven and he wasn't gonna be killed on his own.
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SNlCKERS Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2014  Student Writer
Where exactly did Jesus say that?
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
The constitution did with seperation of church and state
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PeteSeeger Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2014  Student Writer
Don't change the subject.
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Aristodes Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Keep your misguided ideas of "rights" off my religion! xD
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Starflash10 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
"rights". Why the quotation marks, exactly? Also, not everyone will share your beliefs. Deal with it.
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Aristodes Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Because the idea of rights is subjective unless grounded in religion or something else that might as well be religion. If not, then it is just a matter of human opinion, ever-changing and impermanent as the shifting sands.
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Starflash10 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Religion. So, it's your right as a member of you religion to take away others rights that they are entitled to as HUMAN BEINGS?
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Aristodes Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Before you get on your high horse, you need to examine where these rights as human beings come from. It's not enough to say "I'm human." You need a more through explanation than that. And freedom to and of religion is one of those rights.
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Starflash10 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Does freedom of religion mean using your beliefs as an excuse to be mean to someone?
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Aristodes Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't consider myself mean, but there is no right not to be offended. We have freedom of speech and religion. If anything, I would be well within my rights to consider curves on freedom of religion to be a mean thing. And yes, if someone considers a religion mean, they can simply refuse to be a part of it. No one is trying to force you to convert.
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Starflash10 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
It's not infringing on your rights, ok? You guys force your religion on us when you use it to justify not allowing gay marriage or abortion! Hey, I'm christian. Maybe I don't go to church, I'm not SUPER religious. But even I know not to use "but that's against god!!!" as an argument. Not everyone shares your beliefs, don't make them live by your rules.
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Starflash10 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
Does freedom of religion mean using your beliefs as an excuse to be mean to someone?
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shadowthepredator Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
Well then... Tell that to Obama. Him trying to force Christian orginazations to cover birth control in their insurance. He tried to do the same thing with the jobs emplyed by the Catholic Church. People like him only bring up separation of Church and State when it suits them.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Apr 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I am all for the choice of religion as to what to cover and all that, but it gets into mucky legal debate on religious employers. Are they to be treated as a church or business in the eyes of the law. I don't agree with forcing Catholic and any other orginazation to cover what they don't feel is right, but it gets tricky when a CEO's personal beliefs are what they try and use for an entire diverse company. A Bible store, yes I can understand, but not a Craft store.
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Dexter96 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
You are absolutely right. I hate it when people go around shoving their religion in my face, and condemning certain practices. I LOATHE the term "sin". Many "sins" are perfectly normal things to do. I wish people would just keep their religion to themselves.

On an unrelated note, try putting some spotlight emoticons around the "read before you comment" thing. It puts emphasis on it.

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NurIzin Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012
while I agree, why do americans think "republic" and "democracy" are different political systems? while in fact :

-Republic refers to the leader(s) : a republic is simply a state where the leader is elected by a group, and this leadership isn't transmitted by heredity. So a republic can be a democracy (France, USA, Germany, Russia etc...), but can as well be dictatorial or non-democratic (USSR, Netherlands in the past, some Italian cities before unification, etc...). There's as well the exemple of Roman Republic, where there were two Consuls, instead of one "president". So, a republic simply means that the leader is a PRESIDENT chosen by votes.

- Democracy refers to the political system, who has the power of decision. A democracy is a system where theorically this is the majority, the "people" that decides. There're many forms of democracies, such as representative, participative or direct democracy. A democracy can have various forms : France is a democracy, whose leader is a president, so the system of leader is called "republic", but it doesn't mean that this is another system that Belgium, whose leader is a powerless king. in that case, Belgium is a constitutionnal monarchy, but this term simply describe who's the leader, but the political system remains a democracy, for both France and Belgium.

So, republic and democracy aren't two different political system, and the ignorants saying "USA isn't a democracy but a republic" should try to go to a descent school. A republic can be a dictatorship, a democracy, can be based on privileges, can be constitutionnal as Italy and Germany, where the president hasn't any power. A democracy can be a republic, a constitutionnal monarchy or republic (where the power is in the end of ministers, legislative chambers, and prime minister as real leader).
To compare both is a idiot as compare the same hot chocolate put in a mug or put in a bowl : this is exactly the same drink, but the form is a bit different.
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KeswickPinhead Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012   General Artist
I despise those who say that America was founded to protect "religious freedom".
It was founded to protect people from RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION, whether they're religious or NOT.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I always thought religious freedom was for all relgions not just Christians.
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KeswickPinhead Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012   General Artist
I don't know what 'relgions' means, but according to history, the "puritans" were fleeing religious persecution.
Many of the founders made statements to support my comment, that religion was to remain SEPARATE from governance.
There's a reason for that.... to prevent persecution of those who choose to believe something different than the government's church.
Atheists, for instance....or muslims for that matter, if we are going by the mood of the moment.
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Mephistophilez Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012   Traditional Artist
Agreed whole heartedly. It may seem like a small difference on the surface, especially for those part of a religious majority, but it's a big deal. Freedom of religion gives leeway for religious people to do whatever the fuck they want, which should not at all be the way it should be. Religions must follow the same basic human rights as the law, which history will show they definitely do not therefore they must have accountability from a secular government or authority. A religion doesn't have freedom to enslave people or murder people or harm people, it does not have absolute freedom as much some think it should. And it's to prevent a government church from existing at all (which it does but still seems to be constantly threatened by Christian influence in america). I'm sure even many Christians would not welcome the idea of a religious government if they actually thought about it, it would so easily and quickly be flipped against them and any possible dissenters.
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KeswickPinhead Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2012   General Artist
Precisely.
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This is what we should be worried about.
A church, flouting employment laws.
If it were a mosque doing this there would be an outcry of "creeping sharia".
Because it's a Christian organization they are aloud to silence and fire at will, with no reguard for the laws that would apply to you or I.
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Mephistophilez Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012   Traditional Artist
Ugh that's fucking nauseating. Even the name gives it away, it's a "ministerial exception", so it is discrimination but religions are exempt. And that's so fucking stupid even for religious people, the purpose of those laws is so that you can't be unlawfully and wrongfully terminated, now religious people also risk losing their job security since all it takes is someone claiming some nonsense religious difference to be able to fire them. Which wouldn't even bother me that much if we were talking about ministers and associate pastors, other than as this article and case demonstrates this authority goes way beyond just a church and can affect schools and other organizations. Watch as this opens flood gates on teachers loss of job security over teaching evolution, as that may go against the "organization's religious tenants". Not to mention gives these assholes the idea that they're outside and above the law. Is it just me or do we seem to be devolving rather than progressing as a society?
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KeswickPinhead Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2012   General Artist
Well...for those who don't "believe" in evolution, I suppose it would be decreating....destroying.
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pharmmajor Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012
So does this mean that you're a libertarian?
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess, I call myself a libertarian DINO (Democrat in Name Only)
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RS-Kyra Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2012  Student Photographer
Oh HELL to the yes! :clap:
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HopeSwings777 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
Let the US never become a theocracy! I hope all theocracies die out!
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Theocracies never work. Look at the Arab Spring.
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HopeSwings777 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012
When I think of a theocracy, I think of Saudi Arabia or Iran. I hope the Arab Spring arrives in those countries, someday.

The one place where the uprisings have been successful is Egypt, which was actually a secular nation to begin with. It looks like the military and the Muslim Brotherhood are taking over, so it's not truly successful. Not yet. I mean, they might rise up against the new dictatorial leasers.

Finally, the arab areas of the world are starting to realize who their true enemies are--their selfish, greedy, cruel, and power-hungry leaders. NOT Israel or the US.

Good luck to them. I just wish they could use Gandhi's tactics to achieve their goals. That would mean never fighting back when the soldiers or cops attack the protesters. I haven't heard much of that happening, yet. It would take a LOT of almost superhuman courage to let yourself be attacked for peacefully protesting against your nations' regime, but that is what a great leader is good for.

I keep hoping that someone like Dr King steps forward and starts focusing the movements. FOr it to happen, people would have to finally give-up on the suicide bombings, which should be too easy to do owing to the fact that such methods accomplish nothing for anybody.
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pokeexpert Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconjesusfingerplz:

That plz made me laugh. :XD:
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XxchantellexX Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm inclined to believe this. As a christian I believe that having religion in politics is forcing people to believe the way you do. Which I know Jesus said it was wrong to do.
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MaragrizX Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012
Honestly, how the fuck do these idiots even know what Jesus hates?! Jesus doesn't hate, if he hated anything, it was the 'holier than thou' attitude of the religious establishment. If you read the bible ( which I would bet money, most these assholes haven't)


If the US is a democracy, then that explains why on the fast track to ruination. Our Country was set-up as a Republic ( In the pleague of allegence it go "And to the Republic for which is stands")
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well remember how Jesus was toward the money changers in the temple and to the Pharasees? I think he would do that today.
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MaragrizX Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012
Yep, he went fuckin' crazy.
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MellowShroom Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012
This is so sexy
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Brotha-Yasuji Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012
I agree, but also must stress the opposite.

Separation of Church and State doesn't mean "Eliminate all religion from public view."

There really needs to be a good balance in this country. Like the president coming out and saying "You can't complain because there's a manger scene here, and you can't complain about who people fall in love with. Both of you chill the f- out."
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Abizaga Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012
Theres a difference between blocking religion from the public and stopping the use of religion as an excuse to change stuff like gay rights.
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Kajm Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Any time anyone says 'Jesus hates,' You can be pretty sure Jesus said NO such thing.
At the same time, you can and will find people of other religions making similar claims, just the media tends to ignore such in favor of bashing Christianity.
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm an all or nothing girl. If bashing Christianity isn't okay, it isn't for any relgion.
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Kajm Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Where do I find a 'Thumbs up' emoticon on here? :P
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