I have nothing against someone's religion but if you try to impose it on me, then we have an issue. The USA was founded on individual freedom as long as it didn't phsyically hurt anyone. I cannot stand people saying Jesus hates this so ban it. There are other religions in the US getting pissed at you for saying that and thinking only of yourself. US is a democracy (technically republic) and we are not a theocracy. Stop trying to make it that way. Oh and this is what Jesus says about theocracy
Because the idea of rights is subjective unless grounded in religion or something else that might as well be religion. If not, then it is just a matter of human opinion, ever-changing and impermanent as the shifting sands.
Before you get on your high horse, you need to examine where these rights as human beings come from. It's not enough to say "I'm human." You need a more through explanation than that. And freedom to and of religion is one of those rights.
I don't consider myself mean, but there is no right not to be offended. We have freedom of speech and religion. If anything, I would be well within my rights to consider curves on freedom of religion to be a mean thing. And yes, if someone considers a religion mean, they can simply refuse to be a part of it. No one is trying to force you to convert.
It's not infringing on your rights, ok? You guys force your religion on us when you use it to justify not allowing gay marriage or abortion! Hey, I'm christian. Maybe I don't go to church, I'm not SUPER religious. But even I know not to use "but that's against god!!!" as an argument. Not everyone shares your beliefs, don't make them live by your rules.
Well then... Tell that to Obama. Him trying to force Christian orginazations to cover birth control in their insurance. He tried to do the same thing with the jobs emplyed by the Catholic Church. People like him only bring up separation of Church and State when it suits them.
I am all for the choice of religion as to what to cover and all that, but it gets into mucky legal debate on religious employers. Are they to be treated as a church or business in the eyes of the law. I don't agree with forcing Catholic and any other orginazation to cover what they don't feel is right, but it gets tricky when a CEO's personal beliefs are what they try and use for an entire diverse company. A Bible store, yes I can understand, but not a Craft store.
You are absolutely right. I hate it when people go around shoving their religion in my face, and condemning certain practices. I LOATHE the term "sin". Many "sins" are perfectly normal things to do. I wish people would just keep their religion to themselves.
On an unrelated note, try putting some spotlight emoticons around the "read before you comment" thing. It puts emphasis on it.
while I agree, why do americans think "republic" and "democracy" are different political systems? while in fact :
-Republic refers to the leader(s) : a republic is simply a state where the leader is elected by a group, and this leadership isn't transmitted by heredity. So a republic can be a democracy (France, USA, Germany, Russia etc...), but can as well be dictatorial or non-democratic (USSR, Netherlands in the past, some Italian cities before unification, etc...). There's as well the exemple of Roman Republic, where there were two Consuls, instead of one "president". So, a republic simply means that the leader is a PRESIDENT chosen by votes.
- Democracy refers to the political system, who has the power of decision. A democracy is a system where theorically this is the majority, the "people" that decides. There're many forms of democracies, such as representative, participative or direct democracy. A democracy can have various forms : France is a democracy, whose leader is a president, so the system of leader is called "republic", but it doesn't mean that this is another system that Belgium, whose leader is a powerless king. in that case, Belgium is a constitutionnal monarchy, but this term simply describe who's the leader, but the political system remains a democracy, for both France and Belgium.
So, republic and democracy aren't two different political system, and the ignorants saying "USA isn't a democracy but a republic" should try to go to a descent school. A republic can be a dictatorship, a democracy, can be based on privileges, can be constitutionnal as Italy and Germany, where the president hasn't any power. A democracy can be a republic, a constitutionnal monarchy or republic (where the power is in the end of ministers, legislative chambers, and prime minister as real leader). To compare both is a idiot as compare the same hot chocolate put in a mug or put in a bowl : this is exactly the same drink, but the form is a bit different.
I don't know what 'relgions' means, but according to history, the "puritans" were fleeing religious persecution. Many of the founders made statements to support my comment, that religion was to remain SEPARATE from governance. There's a reason for that.... to prevent persecution of those who choose to believe something different than the government's church. Atheists, for instance....or muslims for that matter, if we are going by the mood of the moment.
Agreed whole heartedly. It may seem like a small difference on the surface, especially for those part of a religious majority, but it's a big deal. Freedom of religion gives leeway for religious people to do whatever the fuck they want, which should not at all be the way it should be. Religions must follow the same basic human rights as the law, which history will show they definitely do not therefore they must have accountability from a secular government or authority. A religion doesn't have freedom to enslave people or murder people or harm people, it does not have absolute freedom as much some think it should. And it's to prevent a government church from existing at all (which it does but still seems to be constantly threatened by Christian influence in america). I'm sure even many Christians would not welcome the idea of a religious government if they actually thought about it, it would so easily and quickly be flipped against them and any possible dissenters.
Precisely. [link] This is what we should be worried about. A church, flouting employment laws. If it were a mosque doing this there would be an outcry of "creeping sharia". Because it's a Christian organization they are aloud to silence and fire at will, with no reguard for the laws that would apply to you or I.
Ugh that's fucking nauseating. Even the name gives it away, it's a "ministerial exception", so it is discrimination but religions are exempt. And that's so fucking stupid even for religious people, the purpose of those laws is so that you can't be unlawfully and wrongfully terminated, now religious people also risk losing their job security since all it takes is someone claiming some nonsense religious difference to be able to fire them. Which wouldn't even bother me that much if we were talking about ministers and associate pastors, other than as this article and case demonstrates this authority goes way beyond just a church and can affect schools and other organizations. Watch as this opens flood gates on teachers loss of job security over teaching evolution, as that may go against the "organization's religious tenants". Not to mention gives these assholes the idea that they're outside and above the law. Is it just me or do we seem to be devolving rather than progressing as a society?
When I think of a theocracy, I think of Saudi Arabia or Iran. I hope the Arab Spring arrives in those countries, someday.
The one place where the uprisings have been successful is Egypt, which was actually a secular nation to begin with. It looks like the military and the Muslim Brotherhood are taking over, so it's not truly successful. Not yet. I mean, they might rise up against the new dictatorial leasers.
Finally, the arab areas of the world are starting to realize who their true enemies are--their selfish, greedy, cruel, and power-hungry leaders. NOT Israel or the US.
Good luck to them. I just wish they could use Gandhi's tactics to achieve their goals. That would mean never fighting back when the soldiers or cops attack the protesters. I haven't heard much of that happening, yet. It would take a LOT of almost superhuman courage to let yourself be attacked for peacefully protesting against your nations' regime, but that is what a great leader is good for.
I keep hoping that someone like Dr King steps forward and starts focusing the movements. FOr it to happen, people would have to finally give-up on the suicide bombings, which should be too easy to do owing to the fact that such methods accomplish nothing for anybody.
Honestly, how the fuck do these idiots even know what Jesus hates?! Jesus doesn't hate, if he hated anything, it was the 'holier than thou' attitude of the religious establishment. If you read the bible ( which I would bet money, most these assholes haven't)
If the US is a democracy, then that explains why on the fast track to ruination. Our Country was set-up as a Republic ( In the pleague of allegence it go "And to the Republic for which is stands")
Separation of Church and State doesn't mean "Eliminate all religion from public view."
There really needs to be a good balance in this country. Like the president coming out and saying "You can't complain because there's a manger scene here, and you can't complain about who people fall in love with. Both of you chill the f- out."
Any time anyone says 'Jesus hates,' You can be pretty sure Jesus said NO such thing. At the same time, you can and will find people of other religions making similar claims, just the media tends to ignore such in favor of bashing Christianity.